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By: Rob Turner
'Community', undoubtedly the singularly most important aspect of my work!
This blog will highlight a mixture of episodes, involving working with other people on public/community artworks.
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Painting portraits of each pupil inside the replica school building.
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We drew round everybody and then coloured them in.
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The whole class inside the building.
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We've got animal puppets as well but no photos yet,
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We have got to paint the outside next week.
# 25 [16 March 2010]
Discovering Malawi.
I don't really feel like making art. I really don't feel like making art with other people either. But as a professional with obligations and agreements in place you can't just have 'an off day' or two, you have to carry on and complete what you said you would.
Actually I am feeling shite, I have been for three interviews for various jobs recently and have come away with none of them! It made me parallel my work with Beckham's achilles injury which beckons the end of a career! An over reaction I'm sure, but not a good a good place to be.
I want to rant off because I'm CROSS with bureaucrats unwilling to make a move until all the goals, procedures and desired results for a policy have been mapped out in advance. As a craftsman and artist I think I can problem solve as I go, confident in my abilities to create things as yet unknown, which allows for other people's ideas and influences to take me places I can't see yet. You know just be inspired by interesting new stuff.
But this is a risk averse culture we live in and there is less and less space for reckless folk like me to spend public money on whims and unthought through daydreams. My frustration and bitterness makes me see only Public Art that reminds me of dolphins? Smooth, curvey and easy on the eye, made from stainless steel, sometimes with a bit of colour or lights in. A bit cataloguey, but stylishly so.
I shall put my handbag away now and be quiet. I find myself looking at Jean-Michel Basquiat paintings, they are kind of angry and I love them. Here some very young people painting portraits of them selves in the replica school.
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It seems to be other people pulling me out of the pits at the moment ... Over the years I've worked really hard at breaking down that feeling of isolation, with only sporadic success. Suddenly I've met a whole new group of folks who are really inspiring. Can't bring myself to believe in fate and destiny any more, it's just plain old luck - good, bad or indifferent. That reminds me of Carmina Burana, where a bunch of medi-aeval Christian monks started writing poetry in honour of "Fortuna" rather than Jehova. I love to sing it in the bath ...
posted on 2010-03-19 by Jon Bowen
Thanks for your support Jon, it does help at low points. It's these low points that come along from time to time that do actually form the next chapter, or unlock a new door in our lives. At the moment though I am at the spit the dummy out and blame everyone else stage. It is odd feeling when you have tried your best and you fail. Its parralell must be a knockdown, and count of ten in a boxing match. Your right in suggesting artists should look harder in the places others skim over. I've been looking, but I've not been 'seeing' much. A punch in the face makes you see stars, see double, or even red, but when that calms down I will be able to see clearer the threasholds and pathways ahead.
posted on 2010-03-18 by Rob Turner
What a great opportunity for the kids to reflect on themselves. "allows for other people's ideas and influences to take me places I can't see yet." This is what you're doing for the kids, you could be changing the course of their whole lives, and almost certainly for the better. Give that man another job! I'm surprised, and actually somewhat reassured, that you're phased by the job crises ... I never thought of you as reckless - adventurous, maybe! Enough dolphins, lets have some spiders, flies, cockroaches, sea urchins, and the odd pile of s**t! It's a problem, artists want to touch the unfathomable, nobody else wants to go anywhere near it. I guess it's our job to persuade them otherwise, but not easy in the middle of recession when everybody wants the comfort of safe ideas and safe emotional environments. There's a mosaic dolphin in the hydrotherapy pool where my daughter goes for her exercises each week ... I thought of you! Wishing you better luck, and less shite feelingness.
posted on 2010-03-17 by Jon Bowen
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Jigsaw, yellow transformer and a primary school pupil cutting a door out of a sheet of 8x4.
# 24 [5 March 2010]
I'm Joining the Resistance?
I am returning to my Discovering Malawi project again now and I walked into the class room after the holiday, and the moment I walked in, one boy walked straight up to me and asked me if I was going to join the resistance?
Who against I asked, 'the Chinese capitalists, KGB, American troops in Afghanistan or the FBI? Yeh I hate the feds what if'..........................
'No No No, the sausage factory! 'They are going to build one in the 3 meadows in our village.
Now I am party to the secret plans, it appears my role is crucial if the resistance is to have any impact. I have been shown pictures from a book about sea going ships and the one of particular relevance was a large battleship. As a designer I have to draw up our own plans to build something similar, but on a smaller scale. I also have to design explosive bombs to destroy any construction work should things start happening on the site. I am unsure how long I've got to do this a few months at least, we also need a skilled welder on the team! I've have to attend a meeting next Monday to report the progress and get updated with any further developments.
Another episode from the same day was probably the most powerful on this project so far:
When we were assembling this replica school building we are creating, I was thinking this was a little too heavy for four children because they could not lift this section off the floor, (it was awkward shape rather than a dead weight). I begun thinking I would have to man-handle it into position myself, which was a daunting and formidable task. Then I saw four little finger tips creep under the board and grip, then I saw a pair of shoes...and the boards went as high as a pair of knees, and this kid was lifting and carrying it. Together we aligned it and pushed into place. This is a task I would have really struggled with on my own. The relief I felt was immense, for a sickening moment I thought I had created something that was beyond their abilities.
My doubts unfounded. It was so great when a previous ‘school refuser’ turns out to be a total hero and does one of those Rocky Film moments of true grit.
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No need to worry Susan my jigsaw was fine, and none of my other tools were damaged either!.........!!!!!!!!
posted on 2010-03-05 by Rob Turner
the resistance began 21:09:06
posted on 2010-03-05 by andrew martyn sugars
Great reading Rob, you get so much more out of working with children when you are there over a period of time and build up relationships rather than a one off - and as for the jigsaw - you've got nerves of steel!
posted on 2010-03-05 by Susan Francis
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'The Garden of Dreams.'.
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'The Garden of Dreams.'.
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'The Garden of Dreams.'.
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'The Garden of Dreams.'.
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'The Garden of Dreams.'. The garden represents the soul and the qualities cultivated in it!
# 23 [3 March 2010]
The Garden of Dreams.
Pupils suspended, staff commitment questioned, my fellow artist partner on this project has urgent family issues to resolve and a change of co-ordinator.
I am going to let the dust settle as everyone is doing their own thing, emails flying around in almost random directions.
I am going to make sure the group has top soil and wheel barrows, rakes and forks and spades, they will be happy all day just gardening. Thats all they want to do right now. We grown ups can have crisis meetings and stuff.
My role is to up the positive, because we have done great work and no one is seeing that yet.
http://s213.photobucket.com/albums/cc3/robturner/School%20Garden%20Project/
I love this model with the elements placed inside. I am walking around in there, it is a calmer magical place.
Grow and cultivate, thats what you do in gardens and I'm enjoying this model and I hope it will help me while I'm in there. The others hav'nt found it yet and I have it all to myself.
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'Garden Project Logo'.
# 22 [27 February 2010]
Sometimes its not about art at all!
After 8-9 weeks into the school garden project and the goal posts are still moving. The location for the garden has been moved 4 times and now there is a 5th unexpected movement of the target.
There is another garden project running within the school and we (the school) would like you to join the two together.......................................
How has this not been joined together before, cos I cant suggest it, if I dont know there is another garden project going on. (sounds like Emily Speeds latest blog entry)
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How long can you keep a construction project open ended like this and not actually construct anything.
Answer: not much fkuicng longer.
We have agreed the project logo which feels like a major achievement at the moment.
Timetabling of specialist and fully qualified staff on this delicate project has been proving difficult. And I have saved the best bit till last. One of the members of staff especially allocated to this project went off crying because one of the pupils (MR. Unmediated ADHD) swore at her! She did not return plus another specialist teacher was off sick.
I am an artist but this has not got much to do with art. It feels more like a reality tv show. I had Wife Swap in mind when I wrote that.
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Hello Emily. All I can say is one can never tell whats around the corner, and one has to be prepared to adjust ones plans on the spot, at the drop of a hat if circumstances suddenly shift. I hope your school sprints go well. I was going to talk about Health and Saftey, but actually I'm not going to go there.....Cocktail sticks, space suits and the wonkey bits as you describe them are where we can all have a well earned laugh and pass on experience. I am pleased this blog is relevant and thanks for your encouraging remarks. Sometimes I am not sure how prospective employers view these 'warts and all' accounts, but: 'It went really well, everyone enjoyed it and it was very stimulating and the work produced was of a very high quality'. Is not much use to anyone. And Emily Quick Snap like your doing has its merrits but to use a controversial phrase, 'It really is about the journey'.
posted on 2010-02-28 by Rob Turner
Hi Rob, Indeed.. shit you don't know you don't know eh? Having finally managing some communication with the two schools I am going to next week, I have discovered they want to stretch me as thinly and widely as possible. Very disappointing as it ends up being a bit of a non-event for all involved; they have fun and make things, hopefully even gain a bit of confidence or some new ideas on how to approach problem solving and making, but half a day really only amounts to 2 hours. Anyway, I have really enjoyed reading this blog as it shows the great things that can be achieved with a longer relationship and it's given me ideas of how to put the case forward for that in the future. I also appreciate the honesty about the wonky bits and the difficulties of the school environment. The teacher leaving the class and leaving me with a classroom assistant or student teacher (and 30 kids) has usually meant the behaviour gets pretty wild toward the end of the day. I also want the teacher involved as the project I am doing is about helping teachers develop open-ended art projects, rather than everyone making the same clay sarcophagus. I don't know how to tell them they should stay without sounding pissed off, patronising or unreasonable. I shall carry on reading your blog anyway, looking for clues to it all!!!!
posted on 2010-02-28 by Emily Speed
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'little Johny's Spud Head'.
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'little Johny's Spud Head'.
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'little Johny's Spud Head'.
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'little Johny's Spud Head'.
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'little Johny's Spud Head'. This one is my favourite one.
# 21 [22 February 2010]
Little Johny's Spud Head.
I had forgotton all about little Johny's Spud Head untill it came up the other day.
This is a little storey from the mid 90's explaning exactly what Johny's Spud Head represents. It happened to my then business partner, and has happenened, or probably will happen to anyone working to a commission brief involving the community.
'encourage a sense of ownership in the local community,
the commission will involve close participation with users of the centre and the children,
that involves and engages students, staff and local communities, produces work of outstanding quality and provides an ongoing educational resource'.
All well worn phrases and hoops that artists have jumped through many many times. This included my former partner who had jumped with great agility and grace and had made a design which he was really pleased with and proudly presented it to the steering committe. Who were actually very impressed, and thought it would look very nice in their town square. Apart from the Head Teacher, the Centre Manager, or the Community Liason officer (I forget who it was now) who didn't like it at all because little Johny who had worked extremely hard during that workshop has not had his efforts included and could we re-design it to be more inclusive of the community it represented please.
We drove home from somewhere in the midlands after that presentation and my partner was unable to speak for much of drive home. Little Johny had not really tried very hard and had drawn the first and only thing that had come into his head!
I have included some examples from his portfolio here.
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models and drawings for a garden project logo
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ideas/visuals for garden project logo
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flowers
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one of my logo ideas using the leaves someone had drawn to make a sort of sprout vegatable thing as veg is what we will be growing.
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My layout drawing of the site.
# 20 [17 February 2010]
Totaly Gutted.
I wont be making art together with my friend Charlie. We had an interview last week that went very well we thought, but rejection today! I've been walking around this afternoon in a numbed state saying 'how did we not get that?'
As a reaction to it, I have signed up for two days training which claims to focus on the basic phychology of communication, aimed at a healthy practioner-pupil relationship. I have also got an interview for further training exploring neuro-chemistry, trauma and challenging behaviour, I think this translates to mental health problems. I need to fill the gap with something positive, which is an investment for later, as I can't afford to miss out on another opportunity like that again, someone had some kind of edge which got them the job.
Anyway I did'nt really come on here to moan about it, I wanted to say that the 'Transition group' were keen to start work on their project again and visuals went very well in the first session. This time when their attention started to wane in that run in to lunch we (my fellow practitioner Pete is back now) took them off for a game of table football and pool in the hall. Got my own back and found myself really playing table football as competitively as I could against boys in their early teens and beating them (you sad old man). I just spent £256 on spades, forks, rakes gloves and stuff, as the actuall physical work starts after half term. The planning stages last too long for them and digging is what they are itching to do.
I wonder how long that will last?
We will putting up a display of our models and design work in the school for the wider school to see. Hopefully a gardening club will be formed as we know there are teachers willing to commit to it. The plan is to show the school this is real and use the display as a platform to recruit potential gardeners.
Incidentally the transition group are very keen to show the school what they have done, but their behaviour still descends into chaos even though they are commited to it? Fliers, logos and sheets for garden club members to write their names on are being produced by these pupils.
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My model of the site for our garden. This acts like a dolls house for garden features to be put in.
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junior hacksaw and all is well.
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'Rob Turner'. This is a right result.
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Actually engaging with a school activity, rare.
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vegatables.
# 19 [6 February 2010]
Meltdown.
I am switching to my garden project now. We (The Transition Group) spent half a morning making models of our garden which we will display to the wider school community.
While we worked I heard comments like 'this is the best lesson I have ever had'.
'I cant believe I am using a KNIFE in school'.
'Can we do this tommorrow as well'.
Half an hour after this the teachers are timetabled for other classes and I am left with only teaching assistants till lunch time.
Have you ever seen the riot scene in Porridge with Ronnie Barker? Well this was the same on a smaller scale. Total anarchy and clay, plastercine and balsa wood flying around. The head teacher was called to stop the riot. This arrested the riot, but disgruntalled and abusive behaviour continued for some while. Detentions at lunch and after school resulted.
One boy (unmedicated ADHD) has never reached the afternoon sessions. He is withdrawn from the project every week at lunch time. Every time after school he comes up to me and appologises for disrupting my lessons and holds his head down in shame. Its like listening to an alchoholic saying 'I'm off the sauce'.
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Hi Jon, its good to see you on my blog: Whats interesting about these two school projects is that both school classes have ADD and ADHD kids in there, but the privilaged kids in Anne Widicomes posh part of kent are pleasant and mean well, they are just as difficult to manage but do not have the ATTITUDE and EF'OFF YOU CANT TOUCH ME, ITS NOT ALLOWED mantra that the urban kids have. I dont know if it because they are a little younger, or their home life is of better quality? One thought (from the writings of R. Persig) did cross my mind was that if you didnt have 'outsiders' or 'non conformists' people who cant fit in mainstream, cant play by the rules, these characters do actually help society. How stale would our culture be with a further 150 years of victorian values unchallanged all this time? What I can say is the Transition Team for all their failures are wanting to share their experiences on this project with the wider school. It is very painful but i feel it necessary to gain insights.
posted on 2010-02-14 by Rob Turner
Many boys, especially the more active kids, have a terrible time at school. My Nephew worked out by 11 that the worst they could do to him was send him home, which he loved as he could get on with his football practice, which is how he spent most of his teenage years. A friend of my son's recently declared "I don't get up until mid day at weekends as there's nothing to get up for - there's only the telly and the playstation, and I'm not allowed out" ... he hates school as well, so what's he got to live for? The only fun in life is winding up the teachers.
posted on 2010-02-11 by Jon Bowen
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'Discovering Malawi', wood. Measuring the boards before cutting.
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'Discovering Malawi.', Jig Saw. Cutting those boards up.
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'Discovering Malawi', Electric Sander. We rubbed the edges with a sander because we didnt want any splinters.
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'Discovering Malawi.', Electric sander. Smoothing the edges.
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'Discovering Malawi.', Cordless Screwdriver.. We had to drill holes and screw the wood together.
# 18 [2 February 2010]
Discovering Malawi.
We had 10 sheets 8x4 plywood delivered to the school!
Some 2x2 and corrugated sheeting and the artist brought some power tools.
We are making a replica school about the size of a garden shed.
In groups of four we cut our boards to size. We had to work outside because we have no room inside.
We measured and cut using a circular saw and a jig saw.
And then we used cordless drills and power screw drivers to fix the boards together.
In lessons we have been writing our own stories based on stories from Malawi.
I was surprised when my friend who hates literacy made a book at home of a story from Malawi.
The artist says that if we all write a story and a make a book for it he will make a book shelf inside the replica school for all the books.
He also says that the drums and the musical instruments we are going to make can have a rack hanging from the ceiling like the ones in kitchens and we can hang our instruments from them as well.
He says he will buy some blackboard paint and make a blackboard inside.
We are going to paint bricks on the outside and stories and landscapes on the inside.
We are making some batik on material to make some curtains.
My teacher says 3 people in my class who can’t write very well have written Malawi stories well above the standards they usually reach.
Next week we will make the other side of the replica school and prime the boards ready for painting with 3 in 1 primer. We may even start making the roof as well.
The artist says that the paints we have are rubbish. He says that blue and yellow make green. But our paints make brown. He says don’t worry about that he will buy some proper paint for us.
We have people in our class with ADHD who keep interrupting and getting up and going off to do stupid stuff.
And I left my gloves out there.
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Hi Jon, 'Never work with animals or children'! They seem to be the content of my work recently! Yes we do it because we love it and finding the right outlets for what we produce is probably where the real creativity and perseverance comes in. Good luck with your 'fire' work. I just recently viewed a utube video where a 'disafected young adult' crashed a stolen car into a lamp post and set it on fire and complained it did not explode as he had put £35 of petrol in for nothing. This is a terrible thing and it has stayed with me. Someone else I knew put some bangers in a metal box and printed the results like etchings. Which is intreaging. My daughters ginea pig died very recently and I did not know what to do with the body, burial in the garden was not done as I feared Cosmo may have dug it up, so I cremated it on a funeral pyre. I was the only one at the ceremony, but none the less it was a moving moment. It does show what a powerfull medium it is because it is an event.
posted on 2010-02-06 by Rob Turner
Hi Rob - I just caught up with Cosmo when you wrapped him up! Didn't know about this blog until just now, and just discovered it was *you* who got the ward names commission! - congratulations on a beautiful and fitting outcome. I couldn't work with children. Though I adore my own, I find dealing with other peoples' stressful and vexatious. I fear I would quickly reach the point of nailing all their feet to the floor, better not to put myself in the position where that might happen! Thanks for your words of encouragement - your more phlegmatic temperament is a great antidote to my melancholia! I have to keep reminding myself that I do it because I love it, but I rather wish a few more other people might love it too! I'm actually really inspired by the pyrotechnic direction and hope to have some pics soon, but I felt the AXIS stuff needed saying - after all, it did start out as a radical inclusive project, and has become part of the exclusive establishment incredibly quickly.
posted on 2010-02-06 by Jon Bowen
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'model of M'gosa school'. Looking at the details
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'model of M'gosa School', card. Another of my friends with ADHD has worked hard on this.
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'model of M'gosa School'. May be a future disciple of Hundertwasser.
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'model of M'gosa School', card. looking inside onto a traditional Malawi storey.
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'model of M'gosa School', card. My favourite. Can you see the teacher and pupils inside?
# 17 [28 January 2010]
Discovering Malawi.
This has turned out to be the title for my project with the Primary School Children. We made models of a school in Malawi which was ambitious and a challenge for many of them.
The rewards for perseveranceare are paying off. The bricks are being drawn on, the interiors are developing with stuff on the walls, people are being modeled and the roofs have tiles or corrugated sheeting on. These model schools are just fab. I watch the kids looking in through the windows into their creations and the stories are coming out and, the animals and the people are doing thing things.
Working like this is a flexible thing and its a bit like riding the rapids. One week its all gone off track, and the things you planned are swept asside. The following week its found a momentum and dosent need steering much! The results are inspiring.
Our next step is to construct not a model, but a small replica school out of plywood. Kind of like a garden shed size?
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'St. Helens ward Names Mosaic.'. Mosaic is now finished and waiting for installation.
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Detail of canal.
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These sailing ships are really remembered from the model yacht I sailed on boating ponds when I was a small boy.
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'St. Helens Hospital Ward Names Mosic.', ceramic mosaic.. Here is the other half with one row chopped up for storage and transport.I really like maps. Early mariners maps when they dont really know the shape of the lands they have discovered, and they are so wrong compared to what we are used to. Just fabulus when you start trying to see where the mistakes are?
# 16 [19 January 2010]
I have decided to change the title of this blog, because I am struggling with ways to present the content for it. Shifting it around a little untill I find a way that I'm happy with.
In the mean time I may as well show you my mosaic which is now crated up ready for installation. There is no sign of any subase preparation from the commissioner, but how could there be with the weather the way it has been.
Did you watch Kevin McClouds 'Slumming it' ........totally fab. Utopia amongst squaller, recycling, to put our token attempts to shame and bizzarely a real lesson on comminuity living. All nescessities within minutes of your living spaces.
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/kevin-mccloud-slumming-it/4od#3022220
Mumbi city architects plans mimic western thoughts and aim raise these slums to the ground and rebuild high rise living spaces in a photoshop Gugenhiem, Gerkin, Gateshead Sage brochure world of phased developments, rebuilding most of the city. As Kevin points out we tried high rise flats 40 years ago, with poor results.
Are there no disciples of Hundertwasser out there who could put in sanitation and modify what already works so well, without smashing and alienating yet another set of people? Well done Kevin McCloud I was getting bored with the formulaic Grand Designs (though I really enjoyed it at first) but this moves onto much more impactfull social and architectural issues.
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Here is the other half Annie, its good for moral to recieve comments like this. Thank you. I love maps, they are the way forward for me in other areas of my work as well. Still no signs of building works for the installation.
posted on 2010-01-28 by Rob Turner
let's see the other half! It is really beautiful work Rob.
posted on 2010-01-22 by Annie Harrison